Meyerside Chats: Government, Policy & Civility

Politics Vs Parenting: Why Control Breaks Trust, Relationships, & Democracy w/ Lura Forcum

Evan Meyer

What if modern politics is failing for the same reason bad parenting fails?

In this episode of Meyerside Chats, Evan Meyer sits down with political psychologist Lura Forcum, President of the Independence Center, to explore a powerful and uncomfortable truth: you can have control, or you can have a relationship—but not both.

Using insights from psychology, public policy, and real-world governance, this conversation breaks down much of the deeper issues behind our polarization. 

You’ll learn:
- Why reactance explains voter backlash and polarization
- How political control mirrors ineffective parenting
- Why trust matters more than power in a healthy democracy
- How identity politics shuts down problem-solving
- Why independent voters and “politically homeless” Americans are ignored
- How unfixed problems become politically valuable

If you’re tired of outrage politics and want a deeper, more psychologically grounded way to understand what’s breaking democracy—and how to fix it—this episode is for you.

🎙 Guest: Lura Forcum
President, Independence Center
Political Psychology • Civic Trust • Independent Voters
🌐 https://www.independencecenter.org

🎧 Meyerside Chats features long-form conversations with thinkers, builders, and leaders working to make politics and institutions function better.

⏱ Timestamps / Chapters

00:00 – Why this conversation matters
01:15 – Four years of Meyerside Chats & polarization
03:10 – Why good intentions create bad policy
05:40 – Reactance: why forcing people backfires
08:10 – COVID, control, and behavioral resistance
11:05 – Politics like parenting explained
14:20 – Control vs relationship in democracy
17:30 – Why trust matters more than authority
20:45 – Identity vs belief in politics
24:00 – Why nuance disappeared
27:15 – The myth of party alignment
30:10 – Urban vs rural political blind spots
33:00 – Tribal instincts and dehumanization
36:15 – When conflict replaces competition
39:10 – Why parties avoid solving problems
41:50 – The politically homeless voter
45:30 – How independents threaten power
48:15 – Local government as the fix
51:00 – What a healthier democracy looks like
54:00 – Final thoughts & where to find Lura

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About Evan Meyer

Tech entrepreneur and civic leader - he founded mygovtools.org, a platform to drive government efficiency, constituent representation, and civic engagement; BeautifyEarth.com, a platform accelerating urban beautification through art; and its sister nonprofit, transforming schools in underserved areas. He also co-founded RideAmigos.com, a platform that optimizes commuter travel globally. Previously, he served as District Director for the California State Senate and led many civic initiatives in Santa Monica. Through seminars and his podcast Meyerside Chats, Evan inspires civic engagement, innovation, and cultural growth.
He loves the outdoors, is a master of creative projects, is an avid muralist and musician, and finds the world fascinating in every regard.